"Chaos user" test results #564
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Reference: lunny/helm-chart#564
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One of my colleagues tried to use the recent Chart version (9.5.1) and got slapped in the face. There are several issues with the templating behavior we need to fix:
Mix 'n' Mesh the dependencies
(values.yaml)
Disabling redis-cluster and don't change any other default values leads to a fresh install that stuck due to invalid session configuration:
(generated app.ini)
causes crash loops.
#356 kills any positive user-experience when trying things
Changing configuration settings and especially removing redis-related entries like
HOST
does not clean up the app.ini, causing an inconsistent configuration.non-cluster Redis is useful
We don't hear the first time that a non-cluster redis can help users getting Gitea up and running in smaller environments where Kubernetes is still used. It also helps generating a consistent app.ini.
Thanks for the feedback.
We are aware of this. I'd argue that when disabling any default of a chart one should not expect a working result without any custom input (no matter if #356 is solved or not).
In this case, it is expected that users define working definition for whatever session provider they want to use instead. I think this behavior was the same with memcache before, i.e. if you would have disabled it, you would have been in need for a proper alternative definition.
One way would be to fall back to a "in memory" one but given that this is not a suitable one to run the chart, I'd actually favor to fail in this case.
Second, the README explains this behavior and provides examples how to configure
session
& friends when turning off redis. If these are not clear enough, we can/should update it, but we need feedback on what parts are not clear enough.Yes, we know this. While this was present before the move to v9, this has been especially painful due to the config changes of v9.
I think the question is not so much "redis-cluster or non-cluster redis" but rather what could provide an alternative to redis in the first place. Redis is great for speed, efficiency and reliability for session, queue and cache, no matter if running in HA or not. A less performant but sufficient alternative can be memcached and my preference/suggestion would be to direct users to c/p example in the README rather than suggestion a one-pod-less non-cluster redis alternative.
@pat-s the main issue is that the main container simply errors before giving any sort of error message at all, and at least I personally had the expectation that it would either have a fallback or a comprehensible error message.
Particularly given the
README
gives the following:And claims "For a production-ready single-pod Gitea instance without external dependencies (using the chart dependency postgresql):"
I'm pretty sure a natural reading of that phrase suggests it will be a valid "production-ready" config... no?
@AntonOfTheWoods
Please see my comment in your issue. The sample from README should worked last time I checked. It might be due to the app.ini config bug #356. At least when you first tried the default values.